WE WANT TO DEVELOP A WORLD CLASS AMENITY FOR ALL DUBLINERS

WHAT’S A LIDO?

A Lido is a safe outdoor swimming facility preferably located close to where people live and work. 

In our vision Dublin City Lido would have something for all: multiple pools, green space and community facilities.  It would cater to local and visitors, both accomplished swimmers, learners and non-swimmers. 

Dublin City Lido will have inclusivity at its core; comprising of multiple pools, green space, and community facilities.

It will cater to locals and visitors, both swimmers and non-swimmers.

GEORGE’S DOCK:
JUST A 10 MIN WALK FROM THE SPIRE

GEORGE'S DOCK, A DERELICT 19TH-CENTURY DRY DOCK, HAS BEEN DRAINED AND FALLING INTO DISREPAIR FOR OVER A DECADE

The site we propose for Dublin City Lido is George’s Dock which is ideally located for easy public use.  

It's a heritage site with planning restrictions, meaning only water bases limited infrastructure are like to be approved. A Lido would meet their requirements.

THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE HEATED OUTDOOR SWIMMING FACILITIES IN DUBLIN

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OUR KEY OBJECTIVES

INCLUSIVITY

We hope that Dublin City Council will embrace this exciting project for Dublin, 

We would like to see a Lido which is:

  • Accessible to people of all walks of life 

  • Affordable for all, with discounted access where appropriate 

The intention is for Dublin City Lido to be publicly owned and expertly run. 

COMMUNITY

The Lido will provide community space for relaxation and socialising. 

We see Dublin City Lido as a space Dubliners will use at all stages of their lives.  

We think it is important that view of public are incorporated in final design.

WELLBEING

Open air swimming is known to have mental and physical health benefits.

Even just relaxing in the water is beneficial for our wellbeing.

SUSTAINABILITY

We envisage developing the lido with eco-friendly materials and sustainable technologies positioning it as a green recreational model. 

Our research suggests that water for the Lido can be heated using affordable cost renewable energy. Such as heat pump technology or heated waste water from the new Ringsend Dublin District Heating System. 

There will be green space and planting which will promote biodiversity. 

ECONOMIC HUB

We see the Dublin City Lido as a gateway to the Dockland area. It would benefit local business and bolster the economic vitality of the area, and complement already existing surrounding tourist attractions. 

HERITAGE

We hope to infuse the rich maritime and swimming heritage of Dublin and George's Dock into the amenity's design and operations, ensuring the historical and conservation value of the site is sensitively acknowledged.

LANDMARK

We hope to design an ambitious and beautiful municipal asset for Dubliners and future generations. We envisage the Lido as both a local and visitor attraction. 

REGENERATION

This inclusive public facility accessible to all communities will have a positive effect in an area with notable inequality.

The facility will not eradicate social problems but if properly designed it will empower locals and create a sense of ownership and pride in the facility. Investment in social and sporting infrastructure helps to  reduce inequalities, crime and antisocial behaviour.

THE PLAN

  • With the assistance of consultancy experts we are examining all possible options for the site, our preliminary business case demonstrates that a Lido and green space is clearly an optimal choice

  • The next step is a detailed planning compliant design taking account of the possibilities and limitation of the actual site. This is now underway.

  • In 2024 we hope to present our new design and businesses case to the public, Dublin City Council, TDs and councillors to demonstrate that our the proposal is the best use of the site for citizens, good value and feasible.

    As a result it is the hope of everybody involved that Dublin City Council in collaboration with other stakeholders will take on this project and bring to fruition for the benefit of all Dubliners.

COMMUNITY LIDO EXAMPLES

OUR PARTNERS

Swim Ireland are keen supporters of our Lido proposal. They feel it could provide some much needed swimming infrastructure to the city, helping to grow the numbers of active swimmers. 

Cork Lido is an advanced Lido plan which has been a great support to the George’s Dock Lido campaign, their ambition is to create a heated outdoor poor close to the river Lee, providing somewhere safe to swim in Cork all year round. They hope to replicate the success of the famous Lee Baths which were demolished in the eighties.

Future Lidos is an informal network of community-led Lido projects and campaigns around the UK and Ireland, dedicated to reviving outdoor pool swimming in our communities. GDL is a member and have found the community a vitral resource for support, information and pooled resources. 

Engineers at Dublin’s District Heating project plan to install piping along the North Quays to service buildings with heat energy from Ringsend incinerator. They’ve said George’s Dock is ideally located to avail of this potential energy source.

Studio Octopi are a dynamic architecture practice based in London that have a special interest in the building and restoration of outdoor swimming pools. Architect Chris Romer-Lee  has been a huge help to the campaign contributing much of his knowledge and helping with initial conceptual designs and now more detailed designs. 

ABOUT US

The campaign for Dublin City Lido developed as a grassroots campaign in response to the lack of safe and secure outdoor swimming facilities and the unique opportunity offered by the amazing George’s Dock site.

WE BELIEVE SUCH A LIDO COULD BENEFIT ALL DUBLINERS INCLUDING LONG ESTABLISHED CITY COMMUNITIES, VISITORS AND THE WIDER PUBLIC.

Dublin City Lido, George's Dock CLG is a an unfunded registered charity run by members of the public, whilst using expert consultancy, architects, quantity surveyors and engineers for advice, everything is largely done on a pro-bono voluntary basis. 

 

Quotes:

“Every generation has a responsibility to contribute to the city’s civic infrastructure. The great landmark facilities we have such as Phoenix Park were a gift to us from previous generations. It is time for us now to step up and do something magnificent for the city and its future citizens”

Patrick Earls, Campaign Founder

 

 

 “We want to ensure ongoing consultation with locals is part of any Lido development at this site – local communities must see value in this project” 

 Jane Dillon, Committee Member

 

“The design of the facility aims to create a truly public and accessible space, but also an ambitious and aesthetically brilliant design, with something on offer for all citizens” 

Jonathan Blayney, Committee member

 

 

“Providing a heated pool would ensure year round access for all types of swimmer, whilst still allowing the magic of outdoor swimming to challenge our senses and bring us closer to nature”

Sarah Walker, Comitee Member

Timeline:

2019: DCC- proposes the redevelopment of George's Dock 

2020: Dublin City Lido campaign is formed in response. Massive support emerges for the development of a swimming facility at Georges Dock. 

2021: DCC officially withdraw active plans

2022: Dublin City Lido Campaign grows

Jan 2023: Presentation to Central Area Committee councillors- proposal very positively received

Feb 2023:  Presentation to Dublin City Council Managers- proposal heard and constructive feedback given

MEET THE TEAM

  • Patrick Earls, Jane Dillon, Sarah Walker, Jonathan Blayney

GET INVOLVED

The Dublin City Lido Campaign is a voluntary organisation made up by members of the public with a shared desire to create an ambitious public amenity. 

We are delighted to have new members contribute in any way to help make our vision a reality. Please contact us on dublincitylido@gmail.com

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FAQ’S

  • The popularity of outdoor swimming in Ireland has grown significantly in recent years.

    A heated Lido allows a comfortable swimming experience all year around regardless of the weather. Rain and temperature don’t affect you when you are in a heated pool and already wet, if anything they make the experience unique and exhilarating. The average number of Rainy days in Dublin is approx 127 (source). There are many examples of successful outdoor swimming pools in the UK that get all year round use.

  • We agree that the housing crisis in Ireland should be the priority for the government and DCC. However the planning constraints relating to George’s Dock specify that the end need/use of the space must be related to a water-based activity. So even if there is a demand for housing, from a planning perspective this site is not a viable or safe site for the construction of housing.

    Government budgets for public parks and sporting facilities have restricted rules about their use and cannot be spent on things like housing or healthcare.

  • Disability access will be a key objective when the facility is designed. Currently our designs are only at a conceptual level and intended to generate interest so that DCC take ownership of our project. It’s envisaged that the vast majority of the facility will be on ground level. We have disability advocates on our team willing to review and contribute to the official design process should the project ever proceed.

  • We feel that there is a stronger argument for a public swimming and community facility. The conservation statuts of the 18th century dock means any development must be sympathetic to the original dock’s form which was an open body of water. However, we acknowledge the lack of green space in the surrounding area and that is why a proportion of the scheme does include a park area. Our proposed water-park integrates water and parkland allowing the development to not overly compromise the integrity of the dock’s original form. It will allow visitors and the general public to experience and enjoy a rich segment of biodiversity in the heart of the city. Due to the conservation status of the old dock, completely infilling it to make a park is unlikely to receive planning permission.

    Parks form just over 17% of the city. Within the Dublin City Council administrative area, there are 13 Flagship Parks, 59 Community Grade 1 Parks and 228 Community Grade 2 Parks(source DCC). Yet there are only 9 public swimming pools located in North Dublin.

  • Antisocial behaviour is something that cannot be solved by any one initiative or new building project. Equally the existence of antisocial behaviour is not an excuse to avoid building important amenities which can have significant positive impacts on surrounding communities. Indeed the lack of such resources in the first place increases the chances of already disadvantaged individuals feeling more isolated and hopeless, thus normalising damaging behaviours in these cohorts.

    A world-class facility co-created with local communities will provide people with numerous options for activities both in the pool, community space, and parkland. It is our intention to provide this historically underserved area of Dublin a remarkable asset which we believe will empower locals and create a sense of ownership and pride in the facility. It will not eradicate the complex root causes of antisocial behaviour. However if designed, developed, staffed, and managed properly it will create a hub of activity with an inherent passive security effect on the area. The potential for positive impact far outweighs the reasons for not doing anything.

  • The energy required to heat a large-scale facility like the one proposed is significant. Sustainability is a key pillar of this project, our preliminary feasibility study has explored the possibility of using various renewable energy sources. State of the art heat pumps are a possibility. These could efficiently convert energy from the ground, water (Liffey) or air into hot water, this energy conversion would also require the use of renewable wind generated electricity from the national grid.

    There is also scope to connect the Dublin District Heating System (DDHS) to the Lido. When operational in 2025 the DDHS will use waste energy from the Poolbeg incinerator to heat water that will then be pumped into local buildings to power heating systems. The current piping infrastructure allows water to be pumped just over 500 meters from Geroge’s Dock. This could be extended to provide hot water for the Lido.

    Furthermore there is scope for integrating solar panels into the development. Geothermal surveys in Dublin have also demonstrated huge heat source potentia and should also be investigated. Also cold wastewater wells generated from water-water heat pumps could provide cooling energy to the air conditioning systems of surrounding office buildings and future developments in the IFSC.

  • Our proposal is aimed at providing space for people to easily enjoy the lifelong activity and benefits of swimming, and to encourage non-swimmers to learn. However we understand that some people will never be able, or want, to learn to swim for various reasons.

    An important tenet of our Lido proposal is to ensure that any development using a large amount of public money should offer something to all citizens including non-swimmers. The cafe and community space proposed alongside the main Lido as well as the proposed parkland and public seating will ensure that non-swimmers can benefit from and enjoy the facility.

  • A world class facility for swimming all year round, with prioritised affordable access for local communities to ensure inclusivity and sense of ownership. Community and events/activity space, again prioritising access for locals groups. Civic parkland with public seating. A beautiful public landmark development to instill further pride amongst the locality.

  • The conservation status of the 18th century George’s Dock site means that specific considerations must be taken in relation to any design in order stand a realistic chance of planning approval. Whatever is developed there needs to be sympathetic to the original form of the dock, which was essentially an open body of water. For example a five story leisure centre or a completely infilled park is not likely to be approved because they will in no way resemble the original body of water. The same applies for a large roofed swimming pool structure.

    George’s Dock Lido campaign is proposing an open air pool, which is the defining feature of a Lido. It will be sympathetic to the open body of water form of the original dock. The proposal will restore and amplify the existing protected 19th century docks walls elevating an important piece of Dublin’s dockland heritage.

  • Space is at a premium in any thriving capital city. Our proposal is an attempt to introduce an ambitious piece of civic infrastructure, and build a landmark facility for the people of this city.

    We feel that the entire area should not just be a swimming facility but that we should also create space for the public to be able to enjoy the dock and the surrounding area. That is why our proposal also includes an open floating water park, allowing visitors to enjoy a rich segment of biodiversity and nature in the heart of the city.

  • We intend on water polo facilities to be incorporated into the Lido's design. The intention is for a 50m standard heated pool which could be used by a broad range of water-based athletes: water-polo, swimming events, casual/competitive lap swimmers, learners etc. We welcome any ideas from the public.

CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS

The George’s Dock Lido Campaign is pleased to release the first phase of conceptual images for George’s Dock Lido. We believe these images confirm the wonderful opportunity that exists for the people of Dublin to enjoy a world class public swimming facility at this publicly owned historic site.

We have engaged the renowned outdoor swimming architect Chris Romer-Lee of Studio Octopi to create plans for a beautiful people-centred amenity for the site. Chris has a wealth of experience in public pool design and restoration and is a firm believer in the value of public swimming facilities for local communities and for society in general.

LET'S MAKE SOME WAVES 🏊

LET'S MAKE SOME WAVES 🏊